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Alcohol or weed ?
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 12/23/2012 11:57:08
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ShawnPeezy
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So should we ban all caffeine too? Every drug affects you, everything can harm you. Maybe we should just illegalise anything that isn't absolutely necessary. Bread and water for all of us and nothing else.
My point being that 'it can be harmful' is not a valid reason to make something illegal.
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| soulcyon |
Posted on 12/23/2012 12:38:53
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Me likes what you say hat
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| rawr |
Posted on 12/23/2012 16:20:34
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an just like if teens really wanted to get drunk an were rlly desperate they could.. an buy it there selves lol. pure vanilla extract is 35% Alcohol taste like shit but it will get u drunk.
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| Vulture |
Posted on 12/23/2012 16:24:29
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@Jaz
Haha, yeah, Drug Free FTW!
@Martyr
You won't be getting those pack of weed for $20 near your neighborhood in California with bunch of undercover cops waiting to beat your *** down playboy! xD
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| ZA BrickSquad |
Posted on 12/23/2012 17:06:01
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ShawnPeezy
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Hercules wrote:
Brick I understand you prob more than anyone here about bud. 
Huh I didn't understand? xD
SpartanJaz wrote:
JJX5 wrote:
Vulture just leave
This is a debate, not a drugs cheer thread. If anyone wants to make a point against drugs, let them and read their points.
Seriously, you and Brick are far too defensive about it.
I kind of agree with Vulture. I'm against drugs of all kinds. They mess with your head in the long term. Though yes, weed is the lesser evil when you compare it to alcohol and tobacco.
How am I being defensive?????
I'm getting mad because people are talking out their asses without sources or hard evidence, and just talk on their own opinion. This is debating to get to a point, not BICKERING like Hat said, THANK YOU.
Jaz re-read what Vulture typed, and re-read what I typed. USE YOUR OWN HEAD. Stop letting someone think for you. Think with your own intelligence, and YOU DECIDE.
Hat we draw the line by natural vs human made. Natural is marijuana, human made is tobacco cigarettes, cocaine powder, heroin powder. Last time I checked not many people have heart attacks chewing natural cocaine leaves. Get me now?
And Hat, you know the government is not perfect right? The government are OTHER PEOPLE. So they do what they can because they have more power than regular citizens that don't work for the government. Hence, that's why you hear stories of governments being corrupt.
So just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's bad.
@Martyr
You won't be getting those pack of weed for $20 near your neighborhood in California with bunch of undercover cops waiting to beat your *** down playboy! xD
Dude are you seriously now scaring Martyr into not buying what he wants?
EVERYONE I HOPE YOU ALL SEE THIS. This is how everyone has different views on marijuana because of people like Vulture talking crap. Prove me wrong showing me everyone that goes to buy gets beat up. I HATE LIES. |
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| SpartanJaz |
Posted on 12/23/2012 17:11:26
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Brick, there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that natural drugs are better than human-made drugs. (What human-made drugs are you even talking about anyway? Nobody's referred to any as far as I can see)
It might be true that natural food is usually better for you than manufactured food but it doesn't apply with drugs. (Note USUALLY. It's not really been proven that it's because the food's natural that it's better. It just happens to be better for you because manufactured food usually has rubbish thrown in)
And by the way, I read yours and Vulture's posts carefully a few times already. You are clearly being overly defensive to a few people's points.
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 12/23/2012 17:25:44
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ShawnPeezy
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Yes, Brick, you are getting mad. And hint for life: if you're getting mad, go and calm down. You're turning this into the end of the homosexuality debate again.
Speaking of the homosexuality debate, we still have this thing going on with natural vs good. You seem to be fixed on the opinion that natural is always good and man-made is always bad. Furthermore, that whole statement is pretty flawed. Tobacco is natural - just because we roll it up set fire to it, why does that make it man-made? Coca leaves are natural, yes. If we make them into powder, how is that any different from shredding marijuana and smoking that? You're being very selective in what you cnosider natural to make things fit your own argument.
Let's say there's some miraculous cure for all ailments that some scientist has created that solves pretty much anything and cures cancer. It's unnatural, yet it is beneficial. Well, fuck me, it seems artificial things can be good. And yet if I were to drink some hallucinogenic spider venom, well, what do you know, I'd probably die. Yet under your system of drawing the line at man-made, that supermedicine would be outlawed while the natural hallucinogenic venom would be legal.
My point here is that just because something is natural, it does not mean it is good. Cannabis is something natural that is available for us to use. So are incredible poisonous and dangerous animals. But you wouldn't eat them.
Brick, go back and read what I said again, please, before you jump to conclusions. What I said was 'My point being that 'it can be harmful' is not a valid reason to make something illegal.' I didn't say that illegal was bad.
I suggest you take Jaz's idea of reading posts carefully. Might save us some time.
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| ZA BrickSquad |
Posted on 12/23/2012 17:29:07
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ShawnPeezy
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SpartanJaz wrote:
Brick, there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that natural drugs are better than human-made drugs. (What human-made drugs are you even talking about anyway? Nobody's referred to any as far as I can see)
It might be true that natural food is usually better for you than manufactured food but it doesn't apply with drugs. (Note USUALLY. It's not really been proven that it's because the food's natural that it's better. It just happens to be better for you because manufactured food usually has rubbish thrown in)
And by the way, I read yours and Vulture's posts carefully a few times already. You are clearly being overly defensive to a few people's points.
Jaz, there is evidence.
Written by Joel Albers (Pharmacist, Pharm.D., Ph.D.)
http://www.doitgr...alth/drugs
Dude I just finished referring, that's how much you read. LOOK:
Hat we draw the line by natural vs human made. Natural is marijuana, human made is tobacco cigarettes, cocaine powder, heroin powder. Last time I checked not many people have heart attacks chewing natural cocaine leaves. Get me now?
Food and drugs are 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. PLEASE LOOK UP DEFINITION FOR DRUG. THANK YOU!
Now show me where I have been "overly defensive to a few people's points". Please do and prove me wrong. Btw, telling people the FACTS versus their opinions, (which of course FACTS win), is not being defensive, just saying the TRUTH.
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 12/23/2012 17:32:42
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Brick, calm down and keep this as a civilised debate. If you can't make points without jibes like 'truth hurts' then don't participate, please.
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| ZA BrickSquad |
Posted on 12/23/2012 17:35:53
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ShawnPeezy
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The Hat of Love wrote:
Brick, calm down and keep this as a civilised debate. If you can't make points without jibes like 'truth hurts' then don't participate, please.
Oh okay sorry, but this is okay right? :
@Martyr
You won't be getting those pack of weed for $20 near your neighborhood in California with bunch of undercover cops waiting to beat your *** down playboy! xD
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 12/23/2012 17:40:50
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ShawnPeezy
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No, it's not, but it's a one-off and I tend to let one-offs go.
Maybe we could get back on topic since this is actually a debate about two natural drugs, alcohol and marijuana.
Edited by The Hat of Love on 12/23/2012 17:42:27
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| ZA BrickSquad |
Posted on 12/23/2012 17:58:28
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ShawnPeezy
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The Hat of Love wrote:
No, it's not, but it's a one-off and I tend to let one-offs go.
Just delete/edit spam posts. That's your job last time I checked. But everyone likes picking on me because I'm the "easier" target. |
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| The Hat of Love |
Posted on 12/23/2012 18:05:39
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ShawnPeezy
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Thanks for telling me what I'm supposed to do, Brick. No one is picking on you. I'm simply asking that we pull this debate on track and keep it that way.
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| Vulture |
Posted on 12/23/2012 20:14:27
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#Ban weed in all countries to get Brick mad! LOL <3
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| JJX5 |
Posted on 12/23/2012 21:22:59
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Jaz when I told vult to leave I was joking with him I think your taking this more personal then I am and this is not a drug cheer? No one said it as a cheer just defending my opinion in the matter, your confused on what your reading please dont try to correct my conduct if its not true
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| Phoenix |
Posted on 12/23/2012 21:50:42
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ShawnPeezy
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Legalize weed and tax the hell out of it.
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| Franky |
Posted on 12/23/2012 22:19:51
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Well I'm not going to go through each and every post because that will take to much time but what I have to say is , Weed does not make you a bad person. I have met and befriended many respectful guys that smoked bud in High School, and if I did not know them personally, I would never suspect they were a stoner. Weed does not make you a bad person, but it can mess up with your phycological part of your body.
Alchohol is already making shitloads of millions of dollars toward the economy, and I do not see in the near future 50-100 years, banning alchohol. I mean, yes it is bad, but that point that all of you guys are missing is , Money makes the world spin, without alchohol, the economy willl suffer.
And trying to legalize MaryJane is impossible due to all the underground growing of it. Either way g2g gonna have a smoke sesh right now later |
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| JJX5 |
Posted on 12/23/2012 22:23:47
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Cant we all just smoke a blunt and be happy
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| soulcyon |
Posted on 12/23/2012 23:09:01
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Drugs by definition are man-made: so marijuana in its plant form is not a drug, and it sure as hell is not lethal.
People die from drugs prescribed by doctors, or even OTC and other drugs made by big-pharma than any natural herbs/plants.
Marijuana is illegal because of the police union lobbyists constantly pushing for stricter anti-drug laws. They do it so that the prison population stays at profitable levels - there is absolutely no other reason. You never hear of a guy dying from overdose on weed. There are more deaths from vehicular accidents and child abuse in this country.
Raising taxes is just a childish way to say "we can't cut spending". We can go into a political spin on this and talk about the ridiculous military spending in this country, but that's besides the point. I'm completely against taxing on income and specific goods (since when the hell does the government OWN our labor?) - tariffs are fine, and paying for government services is reasonable. But why take tax-payer money to bail out banks, feed the unemployed and kill innocent children abroad?
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