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Guys please respect what others post...I understand you Master A, I asked myself that question. But we cannot think differently of Coyote for what he thinks/believes. It's a debate, which means we keep it civilized.

Coyote I will not comment on your opinion, but I do respect for being honest and putting out what you think. Not many people do that now-a-days, even myself. But if you really wanna know if my opinion on your comment is negative or positive....it's negative, just saying.
 
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Well, thanks for the history lesson, at least.

Is there actually any valid reason that not being born in America makes you a worse president? Apart from 'can't have a non-American with Muslim parents running the country that would be terrible' even though actually that wouldn't be terrible. If he's good at running the country (which he is) then why shouldn't he be president?

And I think the limiting of how many guns you can have is probably a good thing anyway.
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There's a reason the south didn't want to give up the slaves they would actually have to do work, instead of sitting in their house all day the horror & they were ignorant, here's how I also see it, you say a non American can't run the country it's the outside view that also counts , we could have better relations with other countries and still keep crap americas standards. It's funny you want the confederate yet most of them are incest supporters. woohoo
 
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The english royal family is more inbred than anyone. My grandfather is from Manchester I know. Just because England doesnt like guns, who cares you can keep your country your way. Were american we do what we want here. In england its no guns, no hunting or anything. I dont even think most of your cops carry guns do they. At least thanks for respecting my opinion Brick. Never said anyone had to agree with me. If your talking about the slave thing tell me why lincoln kept his slaves then? As far as the south being inbred thats stupid. The south had alot of rich people. You need to quit watching so many movies, as alot of rich yahkees did alot of inbreeding to keep the money in the family. Read a history book. As far as having a non american raised president, When your at war with the middle east why should we have a president raised there? We shouldnt and peoples opinions in other countries dont matter. Remember lincoln kept his slaves, he didnt care about setting them free, he siad it himself. You only believe what you see in movies lol. Everyone needs to know the history of our country before they vote!!
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Weird that you say the stereotype of the south being inbred is stupid, then you say the English royal family is inbred? Anyway, we're not even talking about our royal family and I'm not even defending them; why even bring them up?

Yea, our policemen don't usually carry guns. It works fine. Guns aren't necessary. They probably just cause more trouble than they're worth.

Nope, no one has to agree with you but if you post your thoughts in a forum titled Debates I don't think you can be surprised that people are debating them.

Kenya is not the middle east. It is Africa. And he's not in another country, he's in the USA.

Last time I checked we weren't debating about whether we should vote for Abraham Lincoln. It's kind of a moot point since he decided not to run for president this year anyway. The debate's about Romney and Obama.
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history of our country ? lol id rather not be American , the only "good thing" is the rights I guess, but you can do what ever you want? Lol there's a reason we have laws your idea of do whatever you want isnt really realistic. & not just from movies actually , ever wonder why people make fun of the south more then anyone because their the only side who can't "grow up" & get out of the past more "undeveloped side" actually there are historical & medical records don't try to hide the fact that the south inbred since your so supportive of the Souths past why not embrace the bad side to? Your sig the biggest redneck shouldnt have any shame , since after all , you want to be the "biggest redneck" and Lincoln cared for the slaves actually back then they didn't really have loan sharks , so they chose to stay actually & were treated like human beings , ironically enough you only have 6 posts and they have to do with confederacy lol
 
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Ok first off on the Gun issue, obama hasn't taken our guns away yet but he did vote to limit gun purchases of one per month and a ban on all assault weapons, Ar-15 etc used for coyote hunting too lol, but I just found out after researching Romney doesnt support the NRA either so now Im not voting at all. On lincoln, I support the Confederacy. This country would of been alot better if we won the war. For anyone who thinks that Lincoln wanted to free the slaves your wrong. The only reason he issued the emancipation proclomation: ''He issued it because on September 22, 1862, he had warned that if the states of the Confederacy, or South, didn't return to the Union, or North, by January 1, 1863, he would declare their slaves "forever free." The South refused to return to the Union, so Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation''. He did NOT want the slaves free he only did that as a threat to the south since that is how most of our money was made. Lincoln didn't actually have the power to free the slaves in the South because it was not under his control. The Emancipation Proclamation wasn't issued to help free the slaves, but to help the North win the war. Quote from lincoln "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not to either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause." Read a history book and if your too stupid use google. Just letting you know General Robert E. Lee let his slaves go way before the civil war was over. He didnt go to war to keep his slaves. lincoln and ulysseus grant kept their slaves way after the war and the emancipation. lincoln kept his for his whole life since he didnt live much longer and was assasinated. If you think he wanted to free the slaves he would of let his go lol. lincoln said if he could win the war and not let the slaves go free he would do that, but since slaves were important in the south thats what he did. He still kept his slaves and so did all the rich in the north. The emancipation only affected southern slave owners. Read a history book.
Reagan and Bush were the two greatest presidents this country ever had. So was Bush Sr. Jefferson Davis also the greatest president. He was president of the Confederacy. Just so everyone knows more blacks and indians fought for the Confederacy than the Union. The Union took your rights away and only the rich peoples opinion mattered. Free blacks in the south back then also had slaves. I know more about the civil war than anyone here. Long Live The Confederacy!! The South will rise again!!



Black people fought for the Confederacy under the misconception that they would be "freed" when the war was over.

The Civil War was a major American conflict and regardless of Lincoln's intentions, he still did free the slaves from the south and he kept the Union together in a time of desperacy and seperation from hatred and bigotry. That factor still remains and is the reason why he is considered a great American president.

I have my rights, just cause I don't like something doesn't mean I have to "leave". If there's something wrong with the place I live in I'm more than able to say my mind and try to fix it since this is a Republic that I've come to know and love. If you know what a Republic is, then there is no argument here.

I love how you are afraid of Communism... We all know that even though communism fails, there are still certain aspects of it that can be implemented to modern governments to maybe benefit the people who live here. Being open minded about something =/= being a "Red Menace". Communism has been eradicated from most of the world. Stop being afraid of a dead idea. Seriously.

Again, I am more than aware that the U.S. is a capitalist government, that's why we are going to go to hell and China is going to ruleas supreme country. CAPITALISM HAS IT'S FLAWS NO GOVERNMENT SYSTEM IS PERFECT. If you're "rich" then good for you, you obviously have no compassion for those who cannot have the same luxury that you do.

Obama may have been raised in a different county, but he is an American citizen and he has just as much of a right to be a leader. I think spending time in a different country helps improve a leader's outlook on the world and perhaps make better decisions knowing the experiences he/she has had in the past. Qualifying leaders of the world are not supposed to be "american or british or whatever" but wise. If not, then we have a serious problem.
 
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Also to point out if Obama couldn't be President, then how did he pass all the requirements to be one?
 
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Lol I didnt say he couldnt be president. Where did I say that? I said hes the worst president. All police officers should have guns. People kill people, guns dont kill anyone when noone pulls the trigger. As far as the slave thing I know Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis etc let their slaves go before the war was even close to being over. lol you say lincloln cared for the slaves lol hahahahahaha were you alive back then to know? I guess your going to say now noone in the south cared for their slaves right? For the inbred thing, you can watch all the movies you want about the south but the fact is, from my grandpa whose from Manchester btw, the royal family is inbred, they wanted to keep the power and control of their country in the family. If they married a weathly person from another country, they could of lost that power. Im not afraid of communism. I just dont think I should have to pay more taxes to help poor people out. If you do, good for you, you can pay my taxes too then haha. Get a job or go to college if your not rich too bad. Theres no flaws in capitalism. You work hard you get money. As far as whoever asked why we were taliking about lincoln, someone asked why I dont like him. Just answering the question.
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I didnt say he was living in another country lol, he was raised in another country. I said Kenya or some middle eastern country. I know Kenya is in Africa, I just forgot the name of the country he said he was raised in. Obviously the president of this country should be raised in the USA. If your raised somewhere else we dont know what country he really supports lol would you want a president from Iraq running this country no. All presidents need to be raised in the usa
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FC_Coyote wrote:
Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis etc let their slaves go before the war was even close to being over. lol you say lincloln cared for the slaves lol hahahahahaha were you alive back then to know? I guess your going to say now noone in the south cared for their slaves right? For the inbred thing,




Hmm lets see so your saying inbreeding didnt exist basically, your in denial about that, and I think You need to stop watching to many movies and also they didnt have slaves? so that must be why they didnt want to give them up and go to war over it makes sense. And you honestly still indenial about the whole inbreeding thing lol .


Also your angry because not everyone else was born with a silver spoon to provide from them selves, you seem like a person who doesnt know the real meaning of a dollar,
 
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I feel like I should nip this in the bud before it get waaay out of hand, perhaps more than it already has.
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