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i think i agree with chillas statement...
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Chilla wrote:
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Now I disagree with you there. I think all violent criminals should just be shot.


agree,everyone who shows violence should be shot(coming from me cant believe that lol)

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I don't think tax dollars should be spent caring for violent criminals. I don't think it should be society's responsibility to care for these low-lifes when they are not productive or safe members of society. They are degenerate and should be killed off for EVERYONE's protection. Save the economy and the world at the same time.
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za heystarface wrote:
I don't think tax dollars should be spent caring for violent criminals. I don't think it should be society's responsibility to care for these low-lifes when they are not productive or safe members of society. They are degenerate and should be killed off for EVERYONE's protection. Save the economy and the world at the same time.

So, by that reasoning we kill off any other non-productive members of society? Say, disabled children? The elderly?

What happened to the right to life? You say that you're pro-freedom. Surely murder is the ultimate denial of freedom?

If, as this video implies, much of the problem lies with the children's upbringing, are they wholly to blame for what they've done? Would it not be much better to change their life around, realise their potential, and better the world?
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We could find Zed, and have him rape them like Marcellus Wallace...


But seriously though, i'd have them both shot, no questions asked. Our prisons are already overcrowded, let's just shoot them all (in their cells) , and fill them with other criminals. Or we could gas themover and over. Over put them all in a furnace at a very low temperature, and increase a bit it in the back every 5 minutes, until everyone is charred. Or we could send dogs after them (pit bulls, rotweilers, german shperds etc) What? They're rapists and child killers, they don't deserve deaths for humans. Or
 
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Drkinferno wrote:
We could find Zed, and have him rape them like Marcellus Wallace...


But seriously though, i'd have them both shot, no questions asked. Our prisons are already overcrowded, let's just shoot them all (in their cells) , and fill them with other criminals. Or we could gas themover and over. Over put them all in a furnace at a very low temperature, and increase a bit it in the back every 5 minutes, until everyone is charred. Or we could send dogs after them (pit bulls, rotweilers, german shperds etc) What? They're rapists and child killers, they don't deserve deaths for humans. Or

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The Hat of Love wrote:

There are statements that you don't even need to counter. This is one of them.




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How does that go in the movie PCU from 1993 when the womenist's talk to men? oh yeah "PACK UP YOUR RAPE CULTURE AND TAKE A HIKE OPRESSOR". LOL Pfft
 
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Ninja, way to twist my words. I repeatedly said violent criminals. Not children with special needs. That's super fucked up to make it seem like that's what I'm implying. There is a grossly huge difference between a man that rapes a woman or child and a child who is born with a disability.
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za heystarface wrote:
Ninja, way to twist my words. I repeatedly said violent criminals. Not children with special needs. That's super fucked up to make it seem like that's what I'm implying. There is a grossly huge difference between a man that rapes a woman or child and a child who is born with a disability.

LOL it's a debate, not a personal attack on you!

You said that we should kill rapists. I asked why. You said because they're unproductive. So, I simply mentioned other members of society that might be considered unproductive, in order to invalidate that argument.
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Killing criminals solves nothing and doesn't bring justice to the victims.
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Peoples upbringing massively influences them later in life, so these boys probably did think that what they were doing was acceptable, well at least on some level.

But at the same time people need to learn self-controll/self-respect. Dress slutty and expect to be treated like an "object" it shouldnt happen but then thats where these boys lack of self controll comes into it.

yes their poor childhood will of effected them but they knew it was wrong, they might not want to admit it but they knew it was wrong.

My sister actually got attacked in my front garden, if I had caught the f****r i wouldnt of thought twice about beating him to within an inch of his life. they need an extreme lesson, which tbh i just dont think prison is. maybe some sort of army camp thing....... if that doesnt "fix" you (not sure how better to say it but you get what i mean? ) then let them hang..........
 
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If we killed all criminals in prisons, that means more room for the criminals that move in
 
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If we killed all criminals in prisons, that means more room for the criminals that move in
That just assumes we live in a society of criminals, which is just untrue. Most of the criminals in prison now did not even commit a violent crime. Police Unions are just pushing propaganda, e.g "war on drugs" - its pathetic really.
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Ugh, killing people for petty mistakes(In my opinion, you can NOT call even murder an extreme incidence. Not unless it's mass murder. That's a different case). Really?

Nobody deserves to die. Prison is already a ridiculous idea. Locking people up for mistakes. Everybody deserves a second chance at least. Truly evil people are very rare. Of course, criminals should see psychiatrists for at least a month to see whether they are really 'human' or not. (But psychology's messed up so I suppose prison should continue to exist until psychology's many flaws are addressed)

Anyway, back on the topic. It's certainly debatable whether rape is a serious issue or not. I mean... it's not like you can really be affected for your entire life by it.(anybody who's 'affected' forever by rape is likely affected rather by the placebo effect) But it is an issue. And yes, rapists should be punished. They should certainly not be hung though! At the very most, they should have a 10 year prison sentence. They should at least be forced to pay a hefty fine however. And they should be forced to pass their inheritance to their victim's child regardless of any legal children of their own unless the victim lets them off. I believe that would be an entirely sufficient punishment though.
 
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But remember, as what Batman would say:

"No guns, no killing!"

Just interrogate the suspects and then knock them out till they become unconscious and later let the cops handle the rest.
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Jaz that was the single dumbest thing i have ever read. On my phone so I cba explainig why i hope to god someon does though !

murder not an extreme crime.

no prison

and rape not serious and should effect you for life. ....

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Huggy, if you're just going to call someone dumb and not even explain why you think that, don't bother posting.
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SpartanJaz wrote:
Ugh, killing people for petty mistakes(In my opinion, you can NOT call even murder an extreme incidence. Not unless it's mass murder. That's a different case). Really?

Nobody deserves to die. Prison is already a ridiculous idea. Locking people up for mistakes. Everybody deserves a second chance at least. Truly evil people are very rare. Of course, criminals should see psychiatrists for at least a month to see whether they are really 'human' or not. (But psychology's messed up so I suppose prison should continue to exist until psychology's many flaws are addressed)

Anyway, back on the topic. It's certainly debatable whether rape is a serious issue or not. I mean... it's not like you can really be affected for your entire life by it.(anybody who's 'affected' forever by rape is likely affected rather by the placebo effect) But it is an issue. And yes, rapists should be punished. They should certainly not be hung though! At the very most, they should have a 10 year prison sentence. They should at least be forced to pay a hefty fine however. And they should be forced to pass their inheritance to their victim's child regardless of any legal children of their own unless the victim lets them off. I believe that would be an entirely sufficient punishment though.



So you want your child to be raped and murdered, and call it a mistake on the other guy's part. Seems reasonable.
 
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