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The Hat of Love
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And what's not to love about Jenga?

I remember nice people would sometimes help teammates up to the rock on Ice Fields. Didn't seem like rule breaking, just seemed like courtesy but oh well.
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The Hat of Love wrote:
And what's not to love about Jenga?

I remember nice people would sometimes help teammates up to the rock on Ice Fields. Didn't seem like rule breaking, just seemed like courtesy but oh well.


we did that in alpha server all the time back in the day lol when that red base rock was the best spot
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so to sum it up, you are not allowed to ladder as human, only if its a reachable area w/o laddering.???
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I think theres just not laddering as a human period
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JJX5 wrote:
I think theres just not laddering as a human period

you can ladder, just not to reach higher grounds. for example, the-sloped-ramp in BG, there are always people on top of each other on the far back, but they can't get anywhere from there, so it all depends what you are trying to do with laddering.
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To clarify the rule we enforce:

Humans may NEVER ladder. Not even to reach a place one person can get to alone.

*perhaps one day we'll hold an official vote for a rule modification when someone has time to update our rules pages, test, and notifies everyone, but until that day - please follow the rule as it's posted.
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yep wat star said, and ppl going with wat slim said well thats just ridiculous, obviously slim hasnt played in a while so he does not know, but in carousel theres no human in the bottom, every1 is already up, so the tele block/camp by zombies thing is wrong. Now, players camp that ledge thingy, and the sniper spawn. Now we all know that a game doesnt last 2mins, it last like 10, maybe more, so as a human u have ample time to get up on the ledge by ur self. and like star said, if u cant, then u dont deserve this, and deserve 2 die as 1 of the 1st.

This also applies to the other maps, like icefields red rock. once again, u have ample time 2 get up there by your self. there shouldnt be any help cause its those nublets that cant get the ones to first die. so in conclusion... NO LADDDERING AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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@Star, So for now we are enforcing "ladder is allowed for humans except for unreachable places". Right?

@idea that humans require skill rather than teamwork to go places. In this case, Saving other humans should be illegal too - albeit thats much harder to administer. I don't see the merits in the argument that teamwork for humans is illegal.
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No soul, the rule is no human laddering period she said later on they might take a vote on this
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The rule is humans aren't allowed to ladder anywhere. Humans standing on top of each other is NOT considered laddering. Thats how it stands atm I would like a vote when the time comes though
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Ahh true, alright sounds good
 
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On Ice Fields, the jump you make by going on the rock in front of the bases to that little ledge there should be allowed, but I'm saying that humans shouldn't ladder with 3 others from that little spot to get to the higher top of the mountain-like spot.
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imo there shouldn't be a vote, rule should stay the same, no laddering for humans ever
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I agree
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za heystarface wrote:
*perhaps one day we'll hold an official vote for a rule modification when someone has time to update our rules pages, test, and notifies everyone, but until that day - please follow the rule as it's posted.

I always have time.
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Star was being nice, there isn't going to be a rule change
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JJX5 wrote:
No soul, the rule is no human laddering period she said later on they might take a vote on this


I think you guys are not understanding the point.

The rule states CLEARLY: Humans are not allowed to stack or ladder in order to reach safer ground.

This rule ALLOWS human laddering as long as it doesn't help another human reach safer ground!!!

Half of you post "humans are not allowed to ladder, period" - but that is not the written rule. Just because it is CONVENIENT for you to think "humans shouldn't ladder" doesn't mean that it is CORRECT. We don't need to vote on a rule change, I'm just making sure everybody understands that the rule ALLOWS human laddering in certain circumstances.
 
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Well in that case safer grounds means all ground then. The ledge from carousel by then its considered safer ground right? So then players still can't ladder. Any place that's above floor by defefiniton is sfaer, so then that means its safer ground. So then the rule stating humans can't ladder to safer ground also implies parts that human can reach by themselves
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soulcyon wrote:
JJX5 wrote:
No soul, the rule is no human laddering period she said later on they might take a vote on this


I think you guys are not understanding the point.

The rule states CLEARLY: Humans are not allowed to stack or ladder in order to reach safer ground.

This rule ALLOWS human laddering as long as it doesn't help another human reach safer ground!!!

Half of you post "humans are not allowed to ladder, period" - but that is not the written rule. Just because it is CONVENIENT for you to think "humans shouldn't ladder" doesn't mean that it is CORRECT. We don't need to vote on a rule change, I'm just making sure everybody understands that the rule ALLOWS human laddering in certain circumstances.

I think the leaders probably have a better understanding of the rules than you - they've have a bit of practice with them.

If a human is laddering he is going to be laddering to safer ground. Like Adder said, the ledge on Derelict or the rock on Ice Fields is safer than the ground they are laddering from. Even by the definition explicitly defined in the rules laddering is, effectively, banned outright. For human laddering to be allowed the only situation if you're taking the rule literally is if a human is somehow laddering from a safe spot to a less safe spot. And if someone's managed that then they clearly haven't got the hang of the whole survival game.
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I think this has turned into a big deal when it really doesn't matter either way, who cares if humans can't ladder at all and who cares if humans can ladder to one freaking spot (caro ledge). The rule is meant to be no laddering at all it just gives the reason why people ladder. This honestly almost never comes up in zombies i havent had to warn people for laddering in forever maybe like once a month.

Edit: The issue has been adressed no laddering is allowed period but humans are allowed to stand on top of each other. The rule is written well enough for this to be implied.

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