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I'm totally going to try my best to do both. The first night, I didn't get the maps onto my laptop till almost 2 hours late!!!

and everyone else was scrambling for them, so you are totally 100% right.

And that sucks you won't make it but totally understandable. You'll be missed, mister expert sniper extraordinaire!
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My apologies on late maps. I didn't log on to the website until the first night =P.

I hrd u liek, did not use teh Hangemhighz?
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ya i couldn't get it to work, i did something wrong in the fireftp, and ran outta time to fix it cause it was time for me to take the baby out for trick or treating to my grandmas and stuff, but I saw it on our computer when adder tried it out, and it looks freaking awesome. I cannot wait to use for thanksgiving. Numpty also requested it (he and adder picked the maps). So next time we are so using it!
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za heystarface wrote:

The TF2 Event, were you an admin there, was my question. I asked repeatedly for volunteers and since you were free to attend that event instead of ours, I assumed you were needed there more than here. But it seems you weren't needed there at all, you just chose that event over ZAs, even though your own clan which you admin needed admins.

Just seems funny to me.

Also, thanks for posting something completely useless here. You didn't help with the event, and you didn't come, so just rubbing it in my face that you ditched your clan for them was fucking AWESOME! It made me feel really great about us letting u back into your adminning position. Nice to know we have you back. Well deserved, most definitely.

Well, anyway, its neither here nor there now. I hope you go to TF2s Thanksgiving event, too. Hell join them for every ZA night.

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1. I am here on a volunteer basis, the TF2 event appealed more to me, deal with it.
2. I simply stated my reason for not attending, however you interperet it is your problem.
3. How NICE of you to create an appealing enviornment to not only encourage current admins to contribute to the clan, but also for new members to want to become admins. You are a clan leader, not a child. Leaders are supposed to be strong, and calmly deal with situations that arise. Of all those in the leadership position, ONLY you have a tendency to fly off the handle and rage at any opportunity that is not to your convenience. Aside from the fact that you (for the most part) received your GREATLY needed promotion, simply by being the wife of the clan leader at the time, you also fail to exemplify ANY good qualities of a leader. Am I saying that I am perfect? Not in the least, im pointing out that you, as a leader, are flawed. Pick on someone else for a change, eh?

Also, TF2 is a game "Team Fortress 2" Not a server, and they dont have a thanksgiving event.
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Wait, like you picked on MY comment in the grammar thread although I was not the only post in there? Interesting.

And I have earned this Leadership spot twice over. I do ALOT for this clan. Ask anyone. What an uneducated statement. Don't care to do the research before making a claim, huh? Ininteresting as well.

And if you're here on a volunteer basis, then you admin you didn't earn your position? Cause I recall you QUIT rather than follow new rules. Now you're back and think you don't have to re-earn your position? Doesn't work that way. If you're not willing to pull your weight then you can go back to corporal or private or non-member. For someone that needs to be re-earning their title, wanting to be somewhere more appealing is not the way to go about it when you know the clan needs help.

The only person I am unappealing to are the people that don't pull their weight or follow the rules. I don't see anyone else claiming I didn't earn this title. Count the threads I work on, the site issues I deal with, count the server things I handle, the "events" I create, the duties I delegate, the people I help, the questions I answer, the PMs I send and receive and reply back to. What do you do? You quit the clan, then come and do nothing? You would think you would be dying to to do more to prove yourself. But you're not. You're picking on me AGAIN just like you did before you left. Your challenging my place here when I HAVE EARNED IT. I do more here than even adder does now, so no, I'm not here cause he's my husband. I'm here because I love the clan and am willing to work for it to be successful.

But by all means, start a brigade against me. Who is with Sarge? Who thinks I don't do anything to have earned my Leader title? Who thinks I'm outta line for defending myself in the grammar game thread when he attacked me and no one else, even after Hat addressed my comment already, sarge still felt like attacking me. Anyone agree with Sarge that defending myself equals picking on him?

And questioning a higher ranking admin about one of their bans when they even posted evidence on the ban being deserved? I defend the admin in the right and I'm picking on Sarge? Who are you to question the admin when you haven't even signed the admin guidelines yet? He has, he's read and agreed to the rules and knows what happens if he fails to do as he agreed. You on the other hand want to take it upon your self to question him when you already saw that I told him nice job? So you're questioning my approval of his actions also? Slap us both in the face next time, its faster and proves your point better.

So use these little jabs and slaps all you want. Tell me that I'm picking on YOU! HAH! It's the other way around, Sarge. I won't tolerate it for as long this time around.

Earn your place here or step down again.
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za heystarface wrote:

Wait, like you picked on MY comment in the grammar thread although I was not the only post in there? Interesting.

And I have earned this Leadership spot twice over. I do ALOT for this clan. Ask anyone. What an uneducated statement. Don't care to do the research before making a claim, huh? Ininteresting as well.

And if you're here on a volunteer basis, then you admin you didn't earn your position? Cause I recall you QUIT rather than follow new rules. Now you're back and think you don't have to re-earn your position? Doesn't work that way. If you're not willing to pull your weight then you can go back to corporal or private or non-member. For someone that needs to be re-earning their title, wanting to be somewhere more appealing is not the way to go about it when you know the clan needs help.

The only person I am unappealing to are the people that don't pull their weight or follow the rules. I don't see anyone else claiming I didn't earn this title. Count the threads I work on, the site issues I deal with, count the server things I handle, the "events" I create, the duties I delegate, the people I help, the questions I answer, the PMs I send and receive and reply back to. What do you do? You quit the clan, then come and do nothing? You would think you would be dying to to do more to prove yourself. But you're not. You're picking on me AGAIN just like you did before you left. Your challenging my place here when I HAVE EARNED IT. I do more here than even adder does now, so no, I'm not here cause he's my husband. I'm here because I love the clan and am willing to work for it to be successful.

But by all means, start a brigade against me. Who is with Sarge? Who thinks I don't do anything to have earned my Leader title? Who thinks I'm outta line for defending myself in the grammar game thread when he attacked me and no one else, even after Hat addressed my comment already, sarge still felt like attacking me. Anyone agree with Sarge that defending myself equals picking on him?

And questioning a higher ranking admin about one of their bans when they even posted evidence on the ban being deserved? I defend the admin in the right and I'm picking on Sarge? Who are you to question the admin when you haven't even signed the admin guidelines yet? He has, he's read and agreed to the rules and knows what happens if he fails to do as he agreed. You on the other hand want to take it upon your self to question him when you already saw that I told him nice job? So you're questioning my approval of his actions also? Slap us both in the face next time, its faster and proves your point better.

So use these little jabs and slaps all you want. Tell me that I'm picking on YOU! HAH! It's the other way around, Sarge. I won't tolerate it for as long this time around.

Earn your place here or step down again.


1. That was one instance, versus you calling me out constantly

2. When i first joined this clan, i did everything i could for this clan, i was just as dedicated as you, and now that you have a leadership position and free time (two things i dont) you can contribute more.

3. I admit that im here on my own accord. I worked hard to get where i am, but i can participate as i wish, once again, you misinterperet my statement. I didnt quit because i refused to follow new rules, i quit because i had time then and i dedicated almost ALL of it to the clan, i was doing just fine as an admin, but you continually bothererd me about this and that, calling me not only a bad admin but an undedicated member is idiocy. I don't have to re-earn anything, whatever vendetta you have against me, it needs to stop. Also, you're acting as if noone was there. There were 4+ people...i could admin the server by myself! So if you need help that badly with 4+ people adminning, there is something desperately wrong.

HA! A brigade...if you're that offended by me being the one picking on you for once, then you have serious emotional issues. I know that only few people had problems with my adminning, and yet your arguments still held ground. Why? Because you're a leader! I didnt see that hat addressed your comment, i added that after i posted, if you even cared to look. You "picking on me" are the 10+ times you've assaulted my adminship among other things, you throw so many insults you fail to realize how often you do.

I only did that because YOU, as part of your lifelong vendetta against me, continually bashed my adminship during my "banning spree" when i banned blockers in the exact same way! You constantly change and bend the rules to make yourself right! First i needed to be re-trained, because im too harsh by not kicking first, and now, he does the same, and hes just fine, he "knows how to admin" For your information i signed the guidelines the day after they were released, and in case you havent noticed, things youve done on the site disappear when your account is deleted. So yes i will question you since i was called out for acting in the same way as he did.
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star has done everything to earn her title and rank! There should be no arguement...

anyway star, I would love to help with the thanks-giving event! Just tell me what I can do to help. I can do re-skins, modding, flyers, etc.
I missed out on halloween but I really want to help on this one.
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he does it once, matter of factly, you do it 15 times in a week bragging like high and mighty and you want to call it the same thing? Its not. Also, you questioning his protocol is the type of thing we do when a complaint is filed, not for every ban and kick, so your questioning him is out of place.

Idiocy and emotional issues are not issues that have anything to do with my life. Those kind of comments have no place in your arguments because they have nothing to do with the issues at hand. You using them just makes me believe you have no other way to support your claims that I'm picking on you.

The whole reason I created the guidelines was because of you and one other admin. That's all it takes to ruin it for everyone. After going through rcon logs and seeing all of your kicks and bans per game, LEADERS and ADMINS (not just me) decided they were needed. So don't go around thinking it's me vs you. Your own adminning style got us here, not a vendetta. Get your facts straight.

And you signed the guidelines AFTER you questioned his ban, and I know that because it was you questioning his protocol adherence that got me wondering if you'd even signed it again.

And you TOLD US to delete your account, so don't go crying about it now.

And don't tell me about not having free time. As a student, mom, wife and photographer, I MAKE TIME to be here. This "free time" you speak of is time spent multi-tasking.

Assumptions do not equal facts, so again, get your facts straight before you start making all these claims about my life and "emotional issues." That's down right sexist. Ever tell adder he's got emotional issues when he calls out an Admin for not pulling their weight? uh... no. I'm "emotional" cause I'm a chick. I have "free time" cause I stay at home with my baby? Fuckkkking sexist. Yer such a product.

And I don't bend any rules? What rule am I bending today? Accepting that he banned a blocker according to our anti-blocking rule? Accepting that as a trained admin who accept responsibility for the ban via evidence that he was within good judgment to ban? Seems pretty black and white to me.

And you think cause there is another admin there can do the job that you shouldn't have to do anything? Why are you an admin again? We have lots of admins here than can do any job you can do, so needing you must mean there is something "desperately wrong," am I correct? After all that's what you just said...

And yes, you do need to re-earn your place here. You don't get a free ride. NO one does. And for arguments sake, lets say you DIDN'T need to earn your place here, why the hell would you care if that is how I became leader. How do you spell hypocrite? I forget...

And you can leave the "questioning me" to my superiors. Slims called me out before, and adder does it all the time, so don't assume that I am not ruled by checks and balances. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean its not there. Also, if you need to "question" me or any other admin, you need a reason. There were no complaints filed against the admin, yes you wanna question him? That's not your place and it was undeserved. Me questioning you, however, is my place and it is deserved. So don't make it seem like its the same thing, either.
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soooooo... a thread asking for suggestions on next ZA night turned into a full blown war!!

on another topic TL;DR in accordance to the long posts.
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za heystarface wrote:

he does it once, matter of factly, you do it 15 times in a week bragging like high and mighty and you want to call it the same thing? Its not. Also, you questioning his protocol is the type of thing we do when a complaint is filed, not for every ban and kick, so your questioning him is out of place.

Idiocy and emotional issues are not issues that have anything to do with my life. Those kind of comments have no place in your arguments because they have nothing to do with the issues at hand. You using them just makes me believe you have no other way to support your claims that I'm picking on you.

The whole reason I created the guidelines was because of you and one other admin. That's all it takes to ruin it for everyone. After going through rcon logs and seeing all of your kicks and bans per game, LEADERS and ADMINS (not just me) decided they were needed. So don't go around thinking it's me vs you. Your own adminning style got us here, not a vendetta. Get your facts straight.

And you signed the guidelines AFTER you questioned his ban, and I know that because it was you questioning his protocol adherence that got me wondering if you'd even signed it again.

And you TOLD US to delete your account, so don't go crying about it now.

And don't tell me about not having free time. As a student, mom, wife and photographer, I MAKE TIME to be here. This "free time" you speak of is time spent multi-tasking.

Assumptions do not equal facts, so again, get your facts straight before you start making all these claims about my life and "emotional issues." That's down right sexist. Ever tell adder he's got emotional issues when he calls out an Admin for not pulling their weight? uh... no. I'm "emotional" cause I'm a chick. I have "free time" cause I stay at home with my baby? Fuckkkking sexist. Yer such a product.

And I don't bend any rules? What rule am I bending today? Accepting that he banned a blocker according to our anti-blocking rule? Accepting that as a trained admin who accept responsibility for the ban via evidence that he was within good judgment to ban? Seems pretty black and white to me.

And you think cause there is another admin there can do the job that you shouldn't have to do anything? Why are you an admin again? We have lots of admins here than can do any job you can do, so needing you must mean there is something "desperately wrong," am I correct? After all that's what you just said...

And yes, you do need to re-earn your place here. You don't get a free ride. NO one does. And for arguments sake, lets say you DIDN'T need to earn your place here, why the hell would you care if that is how I became leader. How do you spell hypocrite? I forget...

And you can leave the "questioning me" to my superiors. Slims called me out before, and adder does it all the time, so don't assume that I am not ruled by checks and balances. Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean its not there. Also, if you need to "question" me or any other admin, you need a reason. There were no complaints filed against the admin, yes you wanna question him? That's not your place and it was undeserved. Me questioning you, however, is my place and it is deserved. So don't make it seem like its the same thing, either.


I did it 6 times, and jokingly requested a medal titled "banning spree" It was the exact same situation, regardless of how often it occured.

Emotional issues are the only things i can think of that would cause you to constanly assault me with pointless arguments. And i only brought it up because i was constantly picked at, and finally snapped. It happened once to you and you fly off the handle.

Well i asked Slim about it, and he said he had no issues with the way i conducted myself, so i think THE LEADER outweighs the leaders. And there was nothing wrong with my adminship, you simply threw a string of complaints out there, and adder and numpty pitched in.

I signed that before MY ACCOUNT WAS DELETED!!!! When it is gone, everything, EVERYTHING you've typed, posted, whatever, is gone with it. Adder said that if we did sign it we would reprimended, so i signed it long ago, dont even try to lie about that.

I only mentioned the deletion becuase you obviously dont understand that everything is gone when you're account is gone.

Regardless of how you achieve the time to do these things, i am not as capable of a multi-tasker, probably as a result of my ADHD (Attention Defecit Hyperactivity Disorder) which results in a lack of focus.

Assuming you have emotional issues is not sexist. You interpereting it as sexist, is sexist. Adder has never done that to my knowledge, and has never done that to me. Again, you misinterperet an honest argument as being "sexist" because apparently im a product because you're sexist against yourself.

You bended the rules in that I warned and banned, and was scolded. Now, he does it, and is praised. That is bending the rules. I gave proof for 2/3 of the bans i gave, and gladly accepted the scolding for the ones i had no proof for.

Well, lets see...If there is 1 admin, (which is all it takes to enter the codes to ban and kick, in case you didnt know) And 3 more admins (this is the possibility to ban 4 people at once) that means that there were 12 other people in the server. And lets say, for arguments sake, that there are 6 ZA members in the server. that leaves only 6 non-ZA members in the server. So, unless all 6 of those people break the rules at once, i believe the situation was well in control.

I earned this (lvl 2 admin) position to start with, you were promoted to leader for being adders wife, there seems to be a big difference in those ranks, and a lot more that needs to be earned. And, if you really need admins as bad as you say, wouldnt removing my adminship be the worst thing to do?

I was pointing out the same way you corrected me, but failed to correct him. Ex. If a man robs a store, and is arrested and thrown in jail, while another man commits the same crime and isnt even given a ticket, and is even praised by the warden, would it not be fair, that the one man who was arrested argue against it?
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Sarge, you're way out of line, bro.
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Posted on 11/02/2011 18:51:27
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*sigh*

You just don't get it. Maybe one day when you grow up. Till then, thread locked cause some cows just refuse to eat.

And I never denied that you signed it the first time around. Where the heck did that come from? It needs your sig so you have to sign it. Plain and simple. You wanted your account deleted so its on your own head that you had to resign it. Take that up with yourself. I've got nothing to do with that.
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would you care to enlighten me?

@star "And you signed the guidelines AFTER you questioned his ban" sounds like you doubted my previous signing.
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cant brighten a room with broken light bulbs. you refused to admin your mistakes last time around and have proved that you won't do it now. YOu want to keep trying to insult me, keep on. You get no where. I have more important shit to do than try to reason with you. You aren't worth another second of my time or nugget of my effort.
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