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Danger Canyon!!!
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| ZA mortal |
Posted on 08/21/2011 14:40:07
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I am positive when i say add the anti-camp mod or REMOVE dc that i speak at least for 75-80% of the za's that still play on the alpha server. it gets voted over and over because of noobs. I have been wondering wtf happened to the anti-camp mod that was being worked on by some one. it was a great idea. i would hate that another map would be removed but if we get the A-C mod we could even bring back infinity. I play in that server longer than anyone here and once dc got voted 4 times in a row which was total BS. I know that even non-members hate it when dc is voted. i was thinking of applying for adminship but no longer unless something is done about dc because i would nuke it constantly if it got voted which would end up me getting complaints and i would end up banned from the site and servers. Just please do something about it!
Edited by ZA mortal on 08/21/2011 16:28:00
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| za heystarface |
Posted on 08/21/2011 15:47:49
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I'm sorry, but I don't see a problem with DC, or any of the other maps except for Infinity. I understand it's frustrating playing when there's no admin there to regulate games to keep them moving, but if it were THAT bad, people wouldn't vote for it. I know you think lots of "noobs" vote for it over and over again, but noobs are players, too, and what they want is just as important as what the rest of us want... and we have SOME noobs, but not as many as you make it seem... the reason they keep picking DC is cause they like it, and they like it cause they've played it before, and if they've played it before they're not THAT noobish, cause they've been there enough to know DC is mad awesome.
Everyone keeps complaining about campers and camp spots and accuse anyone who camps of being noobs, well I camp DC and I'm not a noob. And when it comes up, I vote for it.
This is just the way the new server works... it's practically a Panic Only server, and that's just what we have to deal with now that we use this auto run technique. If you want "regs" more often then become more active on the classic server until it gains back its popularity. I know some of the admins, like juggs, agree with you, so get him to join you on this crusade to bring back the classic server.
I think because we have two servers, we can have the best of both worlds. I don't think we should be putting more and more restrictions on the alpha server. Everyone is always wanting to do more kicking, banning, etc... everyone is always wanting to add more rules to where we can be, what we can do, what weps we can use, etc etc etc... but if the MAJORITY of our players wanted those things, it would be empty, but its not. So why mess with a good thing? If DC isn't driving players out of our servers, then there is no reason to take what they want away.
I LOVE DC, and I don't want to see it change. I won't debate a no-camping script if we ever implement it, but I don't think there is any real rush to do it. Once school starts up again alot of these "noobs" you refer to will hopefully be busy so it won't be so bad anymore. |
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| ZA Soopa-Sooj |
Posted on 08/21/2011 15:52:39
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If it came up so many times, then it means someone must have voted for it, which means people like it. We can't accommodate everyone's needs, but if most people like it, then what right do we have to take it away from them?
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| ZA Coke |
Posted on 08/21/2011 15:53:12
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I fully agree with you Star. DC is a good map, it's just the camping everyone hates. Hell, we all know EVERYONE goes to the bridge and camps out. It's just the way the map was designed.
The only time i'll skip it is when it get's played 2 in a row.
So, it will stay.. maybe we could try infinity again ... Highly doubt it.
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| ZA mortal |
Posted on 08/21/2011 15:59:23
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Danger Canyon voters are not brave what so ever, but seriously come on. thats basically what the wires in geo and dc cliff is so zoms can't get close. almost everytime it gets dc i suicide so i can jump across the mid room before they get there but now they got to frigin smart and 2-3 3 humans stay there so i can't get across letting all the other humans get to the cliff. -.-
Edited by ZA mortal on 08/21/2011 16:26:56
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| za heystarface |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:11:06
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You're being insulting, which is uncalled for. But you are right, I DON'T HAVE BALLS. HOW PERCEPTIVE OF YOU.
Also, I'm offended by your poll answers, that's why I didn't answer. You should add the option that says "I am an Active and Knowledgeable Admin and believe DC is as Awesome as I am!" |
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| ZA mortal |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:25:26
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-.- really star. fine i'll reword it.
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| alltheabove |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:30:21
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tbh, DC actually doesn't get voted that much anymore O: it usually coincides with at least BG, Hang, or Ratrace(wtf RR's so boring), and the vote goes either way.
imo, i think rods should be removed before dc...
i mean, you, as admin, can always nuke if things get too bad, right? 5min rule, etc. etc.*coughtunacough* Cept >_> give warnings plawkz?
wires, there really isn't much of a problem unless the dude has 600rox. most players, though, are too nooby and can't seem to form a ladder...no offense to anyone. i'd rather try getting a few wirecampers than a bridge of rodders...i camp wires, call me noob but w/e 8D
and, in the end, couldn't you just leave if you really can't stand it? o_O
no offense intended, *mortal*, you're awesome  i'm a wimpy noob ^^
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| ZA mortal |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:35:11
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Wanker
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above if i left it would be rage quitting......or are admins not enforcing the rule after so many rq's ban for a day or 2.......by the way is the rage quit after turning zombie ban mod gona be put in?
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| alltheabove |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:39:37
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LMFAO OOPS i for some odd reason thought you were raz. i fail, i apologize.
leave as a human! like right after map loads o_o idk, personally, i don't feel that leaving as a human should be rq'ing...
then again, i dun have a say so imma shuddup ^^
are rq's bannable, though? o: if so, i gotz some screenies...
and how are the map options chosen, randomly pick 5?
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| za heystarface |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:41:42
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Rage Quitting is not against our rules. |
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| ZA mortal |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:43:25
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really above. XD you just look at the screen at the chat bar the options pop up with the numbers next to them you type vote then the number you want.
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| ZA mortal |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:44:54
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ahh so the rule was removed or just another good idea that never got added?
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| alltheabove |
Posted on 08/21/2011 16:50:31
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totally misunderstood me. xD i'm not that dumb ._. lemme rephrase: how are the 5 options available for voting picked? is there any preferences based on popularity, last few maps, etc?
think smiley's rq system should be put in alpha infect, jussss saying x:
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| MasterA |
Posted on 08/21/2011 17:08:47
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DC is my least favorite map for a number of reasons mainly because when i play halo its around 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning and im usually the only member let alone any admins in the server and well it tends to last a long time. Im really impressed with your arguments though star you didnt get mad or put anyone down u stated your view then backed it up nicely and i respect that. I believe alot of ppl vote DC because its the easiest map to play on and most ppl really only care to see thier killstreak on the top then actually have to, in a sense, challenge themselves to get it up there. Yea i do know its not so simple but ive sniped on DC before to and i know its not the toughest thing to do in halo. I beleive DC creates the most rqs with the zombies which can be really annoying if you are one really early but since its so popular ppl join in late anyways, more than any other map i believe. DC tends to be only a horrible nucience when one of the regular pro snipers are on and get 50+ kills every game. And if 2 or more pro snipers are on the game is pretty much already over.
Their are alot of good reasons for DC to stay the way it is and i understand that point of view but I'm hoping for a change. I know ive suggested this before but i think that just the sniper ammo should be removed or slowed down on the ledge. With less situations like 4 ppl sniping u down the second u go for the bridge the zombies will have an increased chance of taking the ledge without almost endless snipers killing and killing till they mess up. I think that ppl should have to brave the tunnels to get thier sniper ammo but we could leave the pistol and other ammo alone. This would also make the ledge maybe not the best place to be so ppl will actually have to travel to other parts of the map. The downside to this though is the popularity of the snipers on the ledge mainly because of how easy it is to rack up a killstreak. Maybe with the snipers from ledge removed/slowed the map would get voted less often and not like every 3rd game.
Still though i know how popular it is and im pretty much speaking blasphemy with some ppl talking bout messing with the precious sniper ammo but this is just my view on the matter. Well this is my input on this i don't mean to offend anybody or start anything just throwing all this out there in the most unbaised and respective way i can. thanks for reading lol |
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| za heystarface |
Posted on 08/21/2011 17:11:40
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You make a good point. I agree that maybe we can do the simplest thing to alleviate your sufferings - limit the sniper ammo. Hopefully slim reads this and agrees. |
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| Smiley |
Posted on 08/21/2011 17:13:21
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We have THREE zombies servers. Anti camping has been implemented in my server for a long time now. I recently removed it because I removed large maps altogether. It's really kind of sad that no one is aware of this. |
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| Phoenix |
Posted on 08/21/2011 17:36:34
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ShawnPeezy
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Hasn't there already been a thread for this?
DC shouldn't be removed IMO too. People who get mad because they can't reach the snipers are just plain.... idk babies? I'm sorry but c'mon. Limiting the sniper rifle? I say just let the players play. It's a fun map the way it is and its really the only chance the hoomans have to win a match. I find the game exciting whether i am zombie or human. It's fun to practice my sniping and i also love to get that rush when I almost make it across a bridge. I like to play the game. I don't mean to be a jerk or anything and I am sorry if I am out of place, but this is just my input on the matter. |
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| alltheabove |
Posted on 08/21/2011 17:41:04
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OMG i spent like 10minutes writing, and accidentally hit the BACK button. FML.
Anyways...hopefully no one gets mad cuz I've posted so much...but--
@MasterA:
You've pretty much summed up why DC is picked so regularly. I pick DC because I like sniping down zombies, skillful/skill-less as it is. Same goes for gephy wires. It's my idea of fun. Just as I really dislike people rushing the FRG spawn, people dislike sniping campers. Life happens. DC's actually among my favorite maps, because I can camp and snipe. Then, if I get infected, I think of getting across as a challenge and just go for it.
IMO, a better option would be having an automatic nuke, say at 10 or 5 minutes. That way, us ledge campers can have our fun, and the game doesn't drag on forever. Or maybe have the invis. spawn more often; on maps like gephy and hangem, I see "The zombies are invisible for 60 seconds!" Happens maybe once or twice on DC, if at all.
And just as there are pro snipers, there are pro zombies like Wu and Raz. An invis. Wu legitly scares me .__.
Sorry if anyone finds this insulting, which is not my intention AT ALL, but I really don't feel you should mess around with ammo just because a majority of the players don't have the patience/ maturity to stay a zombie and try a little.
And tbh, I don't feel like DC's the easiest map to play...Getting up onto the ledge isn't the easiest task, especially if you have a pro alpha after you. Maps like Rat Race and Longest are easier to camp...
@Smiley
Hopefully this doesn't offend you...But your server gets a little boring because of the lack of players. When I see it online (which I don't that often, just saying), I almost always join because it's a good server. Just not that popular--yet! Personally, I was totally aware of the anti-camping thing, but not the removal of maps x: I definitely think that there are ideas in your server that could be implemented in alpha, particularly the rq.
*EDIT* Woohoo for Phoenix, he just summed me up in like 1/4 the space D:
Thanks, sorry for the long rant!
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| za heystarface |
Posted on 08/21/2011 18:22:09
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I like your idea for invis more often, too! |
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